JOE McGINNISS

oops- “are of” not “of are”

I wasn’t interested in teenage drama when I was a teenager. That has not changed with time nor my age. I understand that for some people it fills a void in their own lives.

I agree, thanks Joe!

I agree with you, Joe. The only thing that interests me about Bristol’s book is that it does – at least in the case of the excerpts about Meghan and Cindy McCain that I’ve read on the net – seem to serve as a mouthpiece for someone else (cough… Sarah…. cough)!

I am very interested in the patterns of behavior that Sarah exhibits – I find her ability to manipulate completely fascinating. My first WTF moment was when the ethics (board, committee, panel?) found her guilty of violations and when a reporter shouted out a question about it to her as she was getting on the campaign bus, Sarah Palin looked him square in the face and said she was glad to be cleared of all charges. I was floored at her hubris. (Not one person in the media called her out on this blatant lie, which is another topic!) Over the last few years there have been countless examples of her lying and manipulation, and after reading the recent books it is clear she has been successfully doing this for most of her adult life.
My interest in Bristol is mainly in respect to the family dynamics and how the players deal with these powerful personality traits (disorders) – do they emulate or avoid?

I also remembered that moment. Why didn’t the reporters press the point the first time they caught her in a bold-faced lie like this? The reporter could have corrected her right then by saying, “Actually, you weren’t cleared of all wrongdoing. The report states you abused your power as governor. That DOES NOT mean you were cleared of all wrongdoing.” And go on like that until she pretends not to hear and/or ignores the question and scurries away. A few scenes like that, early on, would have underscored the obvious fact that she is a prodigious liar AND a coward. The media should have kept on her like that from day one and she might have caught on that she wasn’t going to get away with it.

should i know those two people you mention???
should it matter? are they of any interest?
naaahhh
thanks for providing a safe haven, mr. mcginniss

Thank you.

I have palin syndrome and am so freaking burned out on all things palin. Really. I may take a break from the blogs just to regroup. The subject has begun to depress me. I wonder why we’re all frantically typing our thoughts and outrage on blog after blog on every single ridiculous action of this grifter trash? Well, maybe not frantically….:-)….. I’m so disqusted and it is depressing to realize the serious FAIL by MSM and how low the bar is for leadership in our country today. It’s not just the trash from wasilla that bothers me, it’s all of them …any of ’em you put in front of me all these yearrs…… I guess the realization has finally sunk in that many politicians in this country are where they are due to money, favors, lies, hidden agendas and secret backroom deals. Money being the biggest catalyst of their career – and certainly not their own money. I think about the bottom feeders…McCain, for example. His schtick is all about being a war hero and love of country and years of experience and blah, blah, blah…. However, after reading and researching him I came away with a rude awakening. He’s no better then the trash from wasilla. As so many of them are – I think we need to take back our country from THEM and impose term limits, rules of conduct that benefit US – not them..throw their sorry asses out of office when they engage in the secret sexual sideshows and other behavior that screams “pervert”, have the right to recall scum like Walker, force them to allow the citizens of this country to be part of the decision process to start a war – and put it up for a vote. It would be a start in the right direction for “we the people”.

And troopergate!

I do not speak for all media outlets, however, I do know someone who worked for a FOX affiliate as a photog. Once while setting up his gear near a well known landmark in the city for a live shot for an early morning hit, someone statred chatting with him. When he was asked “why are you here in front of __________ for your news show?”. He, in his typical froll humar, stated, “Oh, supposedly some a$$h0l# has been threatening to blow up the ________________. The news desk found out and he was promptly fired.

My point in this little tale is, it takes very little to join the unemployment line in this business and who knows what they are really covering…the story or their behind.

I guess I must be a masochist. I wake up each morning and look at the headlines from Huffington Post, TPM & Raw Story & think to myself this entire country has gone mad & I’ve no idea how this growing insanity can be stopped. Sarah Palin is just a symptom of what is wrong. In a different time with a different media when she opened up the annoying mouth of hers she would have been history in a very short time….not now.

There were actually two investigations. The first was the one lead by Branchflower and it did find her guilty of power abuse. The second investigation, which she filed herself, was the one by APOC. She was more or less exonerated(sp,) by that one.

I understand what you are saying Joe, plus it’s your blog, your rules and I will respect them. I hope it’s ok for me to say that it’s hard to completely ignore them when talking about Sarah.
Sarah is a master at manipulation, a sociopath. So it is hard to ignore Levi and Bristol in that context. She clearly used them along with everyone else. Look at the photos Gryphen just posted. Something really strange and convoluted is going on and Sarah arranged it all to either cover up something or for her benefit.
So it’s difficult to not discuss Bristol and Levi when it comes to babygate.

I feel the same way and am very upset about our country, the domionists, the extreme GOP and the media. Our country is in serious danger and if the Democrats don’t get their act together as far as messaging and standing up for progressive values, I fear our society is doomed. The amount of money being spent on elections and power grabbing is obscene. I doubt any country in the world spends as much on elections. Just think of the good that money could do for the people instead of for buying votes!

i wish what you said here made sense..could you try again?

He blogs at the Immoral Minority.

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/

Hey! Hey! I am so with you. Bristol Palin is none of our business.

Good decision Joe. One of Sarah’s many tricks is putting people off the track by putting them onto another track. My dream is to live for six months without hearing Sarah Palin’s name on any news program. The dream will never come true if we get sidetracked.

They are both a rather large part of Palin’s narrative regarding her family life; she did trot Levi out on the stage in with McCain during her nomination speech as the “fiance” that would legitimize her daughter’s pregnancy. Then Sarah “wrote” two books that delegitimize Levi, then Bristol “writes” a book that speaks poorly of him, now Levi will “write” a book that tells who knows what. As much as you’d like to have no one speak of these two children on your blog they are very entwined in the “Palin Revisionist Narrative”, and granted, I agree that you’d like no “speculation” and no mention of the teen’s activities, but face it, to ignore them is to ignore a major portion of the “Rebranding of Sarah and her Family”.

One reason for being there. POTUS is going to be down the road at Bettendorf so I’m sure she’d like to think she could steal his thunder just like she did to the bikers and Mitt. Then again, POTUS is POTUS and as much as she shoots her mouth off and tweets and FB’s while he’s speaking she’s never had the guts to see who can draw a larger crowd. More than that I doubt Fox has her back enough they’d photoshop a hundred thousand people at her event.

She might also want to consider she quit her bus tour because of jury duty. I’m sure she would spin it somehow, that she managed to fly all night to be there for the opening. The closest large airports are MSP, KC, or Chicago for a large aircraft or Des Moines for a charter. Still she’d be in the air a long time and lose time zones.

In the end she probably realizes that people going to see POTUS are unlikely to shove him aside to speed three hours over to Pella.

So my guess is no, unless she thinks the LM hates POTUS so much they’ll flock to her. Narcissists are anything but predictable though.

Can anyone fill us in on the grand opening of the movie. Is that a small town in Iowa? Where are they showing it and did they pre-sell tickets? I hope someone can go and report back to us how many showed and what their response was.

Off topic slightly but someone commented on another blog that Michelle Bachmann is going to be on Face the Nation this Sunday. If Palin does ever enter the race, she is going to have to go on shows like that. How would she get away with not doing it. Although this is Sarah who does what she wants when she wants!

I agree, but since it’s Joe’s blog it’s his rules, but I think he’s being a bit cranky. I think we would all love them to go away, but unfortunately they are like a bad penny & they keep resurfacing. I wish we could get MSM to follow these rules. Now that would be something.

I don’t think Joe’s ruling is cranky at all — mainly because I agree with him.

Because the key #1 thing to establish re the Palin Hoax is that she was not pregnant. Once that is clarified, lots of other things can be. But if we never get past where we are now (in terms of acknowledgment of the hoax and accountability for it from MSM and the enablers of it), then discussing any other aspects of or players in the hoax sounds like idle gossiping and not the legitimate teasing apart of the component parts of the hoax of the century.

I know there’s a circularity to all the interconnecting pieces, but until Palin is clearly nailed for this, and until it’s presented in a way that is widely credible, we don’t really have a legitimate right to comment on the peripheral figures or their zany activities.

Thanks, Joe!
I’m not into minor parasites like gnats and fleas, the main parasite I’m interested in is Sarah Palin.

A couple of news outlets (The Fix – Washington Post and a wire service) are reporting that Sarah and Todd will attend the opening of her propaganda film in Pella, Iowa on June 28, 2011.

We’ll see if she goes. She probably has to in order to ensure a full house. Of course, after the show is sold out, she can always cancel at the last minute – jury duty or something.

@ msf, the hoax only needs to be prove, not “solved”. If $arah Palin wasn’t pregnant, then the question of who is TriG’s mother is a separate question. In order to deflate $arah’s fancy flight, we only need to prove that she was not pregnant. “We” is a multitude of people. But with enough public support, we can hope that some individual in the medical community, or some law enforcement person, will produce documented proof that $arah did indeed have her fallopian tubes cut and cauterized after Piper’s birth. After that? Anyone who chooses can spend all their time wondering who carried and gave birth to TriG.

Think you’re right Lilly-lilly. Same reason I left Mudflats.

granny97, I agree. When I tell newbies about the hoax, their first question is “then who gave birth to Trig?” But it’s not about Trig or any other member of Palin’s family (except insofar as Palin herself has involved her family members in it — but the rest of us can resist that if we choose). It’s about Palin and her big lie. HER hoax. All the rest is interesting background and will undoubtedly will be discussed in an effort to understand the logistics of the hoax, the motivation for it, the interrelationships of all the players (including big money and the religious right) we have unfortunately come to know all too well, and what it has meant for our national dialogue.

So now we must concentrate on the central point: A Vice Presidential candidate hoaxed a nation re her creds for political gain. She used an innocent disabled child to do so. She was enabled by the GOP and others, including the MSM. And the MSM never told us a thing about this hoax of the century, and instead nattered away about plastic surgery, clothes, teen problems, and the sexual pecadillos of minor politicians. Palin has already been documented ad nauseum as being a skilled, compulsive liar (and Joe’s book will surely present new info on that, as well as some surprises) yet the MSM does not question her story (and hers alone, for there is no other key supporting data re Palin giving birth except a probably forged medical letter from an MD who has NEVER otherwise spoken publicly [but has been quoted extensively by liar-of-the-decade Palin]) on this centerpiece issue that is a perfect symbol of the gazillion other lies.

Sorry for the rant: The Palin Hoax is about Palin alone. It is about Palin’s willful acts. All the rest does not change this and often serves as a distraction from it. The rest of it interested us as we flailed about, trying to understand this hideous tale, and now we do. Further detail might interest some; it might not interest others. But the fact of the hoax and the fact of the enablers is a major shame upon our system and it stands alone, once proved and documented without doubt.

Yes! A follow-up question or two and she is done.

I disagree that Alaska is the worst. I think Alaska has plenty of company; its just that many of us are getting to know Alaska politics better than some other states.

Hi Lisabeth, we seem to share more than similar names, I’ve noticed. Its the money that really upsets me. We are cutting back on Education which is our country’s future and the politicians are projected to spend more than a trillion on the 2012 election. Obscene!

I’d click on them to give you a penny or two, but I wonder if my clicking gives them a false sense of grandeur.

Yep…it’s important for you not to seem imperious & discredit the rest of us who have followed this god awful saga because we care about our country.

Heh-heh — “doings”.